Replying to @⁨sanitation@lemmy.today⁩

I’m not necessarily in favor of data centers. That said, every time I see something like this I just wonder when we are going to start hearing about data centers being built in poor countries powered exclusively by coal and zero regulation. I really have no idea what a good outcome looks like but playing ultra hardball seems unwise. I’m very poorly educated on data centers and AI in general. But, I am an expert in electrical generation. I know we could do it pretty clean, at least relative to coal/heavy oil. I don’t think stopping data centers built in the US will magically cease the boulder rolling in the AI direction. Seems like the money is at its back so its going to happen, just a matter of when, where and how dirty.

Replying to @⁨Brkdncr@lemmy.world⁩

I’d say your list is a bit too short. Some more considerations (not comprehensive):

  • Construction noise and seismic limits (nearby neighborhoods have been disturbed and experienced damage from blasting operations)
  • Operating noise limits (ban on-site gas turbine generation, limit noise levels from cooling towers)
  • Limit light pollution

Edit:

  • Job protections and guarantees for workers displaced by automation

Replying to @⁨Xaphanos@lemmy.world⁩

Who said “cat videos”? I said incel slop and CSAM. That’s literally mostly what Grok is used for.

Good for your customers for being the exception and using it for something that matters, but it’s still “fuck AI” in general.

ForbesGrok’s Traffic Heavily Driven By NSFW Content, Report SaysxAI is falling behind its competitors—and reportedly relying heavily on sexualized content.

Replying to @⁨7101334@lemmy.world⁩

They this on…

And good for you for minimizing your carbon footprint, but it’s still “fuck humans” in general.

We both see that there are large ongoing issues, with bad actors. Elon spending a gazillion dollars for zero cash return is a symptom of his moral destitution, not the usefulness of AI. However painting the world with a broad brush does nothing for improving the world. Bad behavior needs to be punished, while promoting the good.

Replying to @⁨7101334@lemmy.world⁩

I pointed to your logical fallacy. Do you see how?

Then you made an ad hominem.

All you’ve demonstrated is your desire to muddy the water.

Would you believe that I see the Luddites had a valid point? The mills were being irresponsible by taking a pure capitalist approach without any social awareness? My company builds more public power infrastructure than it uses, leaving the local community with more electrical capacity than before. Generally by a factor of 2. Why? Because it’s the right thing to do. We don’t build open loop cooling. We don’t build near residential areas. We believe that being irresponsible is not an option. Do we make the news? Of course not, that story doesn’t sell.