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i hate it but having cameras in your privately owned building is legal.
Replying to @terabyterex@lemmy.world
Facial recognition software =X= cameras. Cameras are fine; software recording and tracking faces and uploading that biometric data to god knows where is wayyyyy different.
Also, MSG is different from a “privately owned buildings” like a house. This is a venue that’s open to/for the public.
As OP said, this shit should be illegal.
Replying to @mienshao@lemmy.world
uploading that biometric data to god knows where
In the context of facial recognition, “biometric data” is just a picture of your face. If you’ve ever uploaded a photo of yourself to any website/service, then you’ve already lost that fight.
Edit: to everyone downvoting, explain why you think you know better than someone who worked in that industry and developed computer vision and facial recognition software for 10 years.
Edit 2: I think people are misunderstanding what I said. I’m not saying your photo “tracks where you are”, but rather if your face exists anywhere on the internet (with associated info about who you are) then that’s all anyone needs to build a facial recognition profile on you.
They just need to scrape various websites for the info and put it into a database. This is exactly what Clearview AI did. They scrapped Facebook and other publicly accessible websites and built a giant database that they then used to give police and other orgs access to via their software.
So my point was “think twice before you upload a photo with your face to any website or service”
Replying to @CeeBee_Eh@lemmy.world
that’s false. if I upload a photo, that won’t make it known where will I be at any later point in time. it also assumes that we have uploaded pictures of ours to the internet.
Replying to @WhyJiffie@sh.itjust.works
It’s not false. I previously worked for a facial recognition company. Every single facial recognition system uses a photo (or series of photos) to extract the mathematical representation of a face. But literally every single system uses a different algorithm. Once they make the extraction, that data is 100% useless to anyone other than that vendor/system.
Ultimately it doesn’t matter, because the source photo is what’s more valuable, since that can be used by any system to generate a face model of an individual and it can be read/seen/interpreted by people also.
it also assumes that we have uploaded pictures of ours to the internet.
Hence why I said “If you’ve ever uploaded a photo of yourself”.
that won’t make it known where will I be at any later point in time.
I’m sorry, what??
Replying to @CeeBee_Eh@lemmy.world
it is false. it is not uploading a photo of yourself that makes this a bad thing. its not only bad because it recognized be on a facebook photo. the major part that makes it bad that these systems are recording, and uploading data god knows where, no matter the format, with total unaccountability to the average person.
that won’t make it known where will I be at any later point in time.
I’m sorry, what??
by uploading a photo, nobody will know what will happen to me in my life in the future. these camera systems are the things that do that.
Replying to @WhyJiffie@sh.itjust.works
it is false. it is not uploading a photo of yourself that makes this a bad thing.
You still don’t seem to understand. I’ll try to explain it more simply:
If you’ve uploaded a photo of yourself with PII data (eg. your name), then that information can be scraped and used by ethically void companies (most of them) to build a database with your information on it. All without your knowledge or consent.
the major part that makes it bad that these systems are recording, and uploading data
Irrelevant to the point I was making, and it doesn’t falsify or contradict anything I’ve said.
Replying to @CeeBee_Eh@lemmy.world
If you’ve uploaded a photo of yourself with PII data (eg. your name), then that information can be scraped and used by ethically void companies (most of them) to build a database with your information on it. All without your knowledge or consent.
that’s not what I debate, sorry. if you look at it that way, we all might have lost that battle, without exceptions, because of gov ID photos.
my point is that the battle is not lost by facial recognition companies getting your photo, but when your area uses cameras related to a facial recognition company, and your community cannot get rid of them.