EmilieEasie

Yeah, it can be both, like, if you want to argue that in our current capitalist society people need to be compensated fairly for their work, I’ll hear that argument, but I don’t think it’s the best or most accurate framing. I think it’s just as obnoxious reddit made a deal with google to train on my (and everyone else’s) comments throughout the website as I do the possibility it was trained on my artwork, and I’m not alone in that.

His other comment applies just as easily to to stolen medical images, like this woman’s , as it does more creative works. It feels violating either way. Virtually no one is worried about Mickey Mouse appearing in data sets, but lots of people do feel wronged when their emails are trained on without permission or compensation, even though they’re not really IPs.

AI training is data theft not IP theft

Oh that’s the actual headline lol.

I thought it would be like they paid some people with some ties to fascist groups but some plausible deniability…

But no. Full mask off.

they definitely eat up too much bandwidth NOW, that’s undoubtedly a problem, but it’s not necessarily gonna keep increasing at the same pace forever. It kind of reminds me of people who were sure we’d over populate the world and not have enough food, or the people who were predicting female olympic sprinters would soon be outrunning jets

I think it’s too early to say that’s going to happen

I understand where you’re coming from, but you could almost always say this about every kind of mistake every person has ever made, and then sit there wondering why humans ever make mistakes, you know?

Agree. At this point it’s the the cons of every decision and none of the pros it used to have 😓 Like, you’re still gonna run into a shitton of sexism and racism because they’ll never get banned as long as they don’t say an actual slur… but also you can get auto-banned by AI for making a sarcastic joke. It’s gotten harder to hold onto a community and moderate it effectively, but there’s still a ton of mod squatters ruining what used to be decent communities. And so on.

I’ve heard a lot of cooing over the old days of reddit, but the old days of reddit also involved being a free speech absolutist enclave where r/Incel and r/creepshots festered for years. I think it got better in the middle, and that’s when I joined and had a lot of fun for a while… But then Ellen Pao got ejected on a wave of sexist abuse and, well, I guess my point is that it was always kinda rotten so it was inevitable for it to go downhill like this.

For me, the toxicity is a big push off of reddit. It’s not like I never encounter obnoxiousness here, but it’s not nearly as bad.

I guess I should have said EVEN* failing to comply with the law, you caught me out on some pedantry, I admit it and concede

It’s absolutely worth requesting your data to be deleted regardless of where you live by claiming to live in California. I always provide the address of a post office in Cali as my address when requesting deletion.

I do think it’s possible that some of them won’t delete your data upon request, failing to comply with the law, but I also think a lot of people on the internet are unduly influenced by doomers who want you to feel powerless and do nothing.

Really good at helping cops commit crimes though

Hmm I swear I just saw an article about how tech is hiring again. That industry gives me whiplash and I’m glad I decided not to go that way despite a lifelong interest in computers.

Edit: lol the article actually addresses that, s’what I get for commenting before reading it. But overall point still stands 😵‍💫

The article specifically says slow growth of logged in US users is the reason that the stock fell, not because of lack of opportunities to monetize content. Revenue is up year over year. They just give a different reason for users turning away.

Nothing in the article about user experience at all, maybe I’m crazy for thinking that’s a big part of the problem.

Good to know. I’ll continue not really going here lol

How are there like 3 positive comments on this article? Is Engaget primarily for dummies?