“Pirating” isn’t stealing regardless of anything. It is unsanctioned copying.

And not removing the product from anyone.

I’m stealing this.

No, you’re copying this, and if OP doesn’t allow you to, then you’re pirating this

Pirating is not and never has been stealing. You do not deprive anyone of anything when you make a copy of something.

Copyright is a dumb as shit system of artificial scarcity and always has been.

Its kinda true. I like to think of gog and gog-games. One is a storefront. One is a clean ui with all the games downloadable for free.

I think many would still use the free one vs paid. Myself, there’s something about owning it.

I pirated doom eternal back in the day. I was enjoying it so much I just bought it instead. 🤷

I get what you’re saying with “copying” vs “stealing”, which is true. But if you could clone your friends car for free you don’t need to buy a car and the business loses a sale.

The business loses a sale of what though? A copy they never created or had possession of in the first place?

If I go home and build a PC, can Dell claim that I deprived them of a sale of a copy of one of their computers?

doom eternal

back in the day

Oofff, I felt that

Yeah me too lol. I’m also old enough to say back in the day for OG doom too…

So sad that gog-games will be shutting down soon. Are there any plans for forks?

For digital media, pirating increases the number of sales

That’s the other part of it. How will you pirate when they no longer sell hardware to us?

Their whole idea is for the production of technology to be exclusive to them and their “AI” datacenters. Besides being used to spy on us and everything we do, think, create, and opine - they will force us into walled gardens on locked down tablets and we will use their software they way they intend for the time they allow us, only.

It’s a prison.

No worries we will always have the hardware. It may not look shiny or new, but we can go to scrape yards and another places to find what we need. And we will build our internet. It be true cyberpunk. Hell with 2 dollar saw blade I can gather some materials needed.

That’s just it with most of these services - you never bought 'em. You pay a subscription fee each month to use their service.

That is not buying, nor is it ownership.

I mean that’s fair, an actual subscription is different to buying. Nobody is suggesting you “own” the games you get with PS Plus Premium, or the movies you watch on Netflix.

But if I buy a movie on Amazon Video for £9.99, it should be mine. And when I’m bored of it, or find myself suddenly owing £10,000 to a local gangster due to a hilarious mix-up during a backstreet game of high-stakes poker, I should be able to sell it on to somebody else like I can with a disc.

So presumably the problem here is that DRM in the video is causing it to behave like a subscription rather than a purchase?

It sounds to me like you still only rented it (but I’ve never used amazon video stuff - I did get a movie from apple/iTunes once and that was very clear on the time -based limitations).

I searched amazon video and its quite clearly pitching itself as another shitty subscription service.

I think once again this comes down to false expectations (and possibly shitty marketing?)

Amazon is both a subscription and purchasing platform. There’s no option to download them, only stream. Purchases are not tied to a subscription.

So your complaint is that they use the terms ‘buy’ but it’s basically the same as renting, right?

Buying is renting, pirating is owning