@jaredwhite @gedankenstuecke @codefloe

It was me/CodeFloe who got confronted here by Codeberg resp. their representatives. Not the other way round.

I've been with Codeberg for many years and, did a lot of work on the infrastructure and alike. I never received anything for it (I also didn't ask).
I've been a paying member for years.
I've been trying to build bridges many times but every time one just slightly moves of the "ideal" path (seen from CB values) or says something not entirely positive around (active) infrastructure practices (or rather issues), people get confronted and essentially declared "unwelcomed".

The amount and depth of judgment coming from it's users is extraordinary (at times) and the discussion points of AI and crypto mainly bring these to light now.

I personally find that behavior disrespectful and it also contradicts the values of "not harming anyone" which the platform itself promoted so heavily - which is actually ironic.

Codeberg might have started out differently but, for some years now, is on a path to become more a policital/ethical association than advancing as a technical platform. This year's GA was a good reflection of that as most of the 3h spent there was around those ethical discussions and wordings and almost no time was spent on advancing in technical areas.

This might be OK for the people driving it but also disappointing for many others which hoped to find a technically solid home for their code that doesn't sell their data and isn't run in the US.

#codeberg #codefloe

@pat_dev @gedankenstuecke @codefloe Um, literally the reason I'm interested in using Codeberg is ethical. If I only cared about technology I'd probably just go use GitHub because it's the default option and "everyone" is there.

As for this particular thread, you started it by publicly pointing at Codeberg's vote on LLM policy and making it a sales pitch for your own service. If you're going to dish it out, you'd better take it.

@jaredwhite @pat_dev @codefloe personally, I just don't see the niche for a "freemium" service that is "GitHub but on EU servers" as it feels like the worst of both worlds: You're neither a customer with the rights that such a relationship would entail, but neither do you have a right to decision making.

It just smells like the same infrastructure capture we've seen with literally every free service that's corpo-run.

@gedankenstuecke @pat_dev @codefloe well, to be fair…there are some codebases which are internal/private or closed source or for a client or whatever which I wouldn't expect I can host on Codeberg. Having a freemium/commercial service for such projects as an option is a valuable concept IMHO.

I'm just finding it quite bizarre for the commercial service to be criticizing the communial one. They serve different needs in my mind. "why not both?" meme, etc.