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Shreveport TimesNew Orleans will use AI to answer 911 calls instead of a humanNew Orleans is using AI to answer 911 calls instead of human dispatchers. What does this mean for crime and emergency response?

Replying to @⁨trevor@lemmy.blahaj.zone⁩

Yeah, I can just imagine how well a “AI” would deal with a situation like this when they can’t even operate a drive-thru properly.

NBC NewsOhio woman who called 911 for pizza was really reporting domestic violence against her mom"This is the wrong number to order a pizza," the dispatcher said, then added shortly after, "I’m getting you now, OK. ... The guy still there?"

Replying to @⁨percent@infosec.pub⁩

What if someone is obviously out of their mind and says yes? Random example, say someone has a stroke and has just barely figured out how to use the big red emergency call button on their phone screen. The AI asks if they are calling about blah blah emergency. Maybe the person only understands half of it, thinks they’re being asked if they’re calling about an emergency and say “yes”. Now they’re stuck having a form letter read to them by AI while their brain is dying. A person would catch something was up even if they said yes.

The article even notes this can be a problem without anything medical going on:

It’s also possible that AI agents handling 911 triage could fail to understand individuals with stronger accents and dialects, as well as differences in pitch and articulation. This is because AI is programmed with automatic speech recognition systems and, therefore, could potentialy be unreliable when presented with a speech unlike the ones used the AI is trained to recognize.

Responding to people having emergencies is too important a task to leave up to voice recognition slapped on top of an LLM.

Replying to @⁨Catoblepas@lemmy.blahaj.zone⁩

Sure, usually, but compare like to like. If a human operator asked if the call was about an already known scenario and transferred people to an automated service if they said “yes”, then the same exact thing could happen.

You attemtped to craft a very specific scenario in which harm would result, when in reality it is wildly unlikely that someone would call in at that precise time and only respond with the word “yes”.

I can only speculate as to why you would do that.

Replying to @⁨joe@lemmy.world⁩

It doesn’t have to be a stroke, do you really think that’s the only thing that can make people confused or give anything other than the expected answer? Panic, being hard of hearing, sometimes people even have to pretend to be calling someone else so that they can call for help in front of an abuser.

You’re really married to the idea of this being unable to go wrong.

Replying to @⁨joe@lemmy.world⁩

Again, a human being and an LLM strapped on top of voice recognition are not the same thing. A person can understand tone and context that an LLM can’t. It absolutely can’t perform at the same level while taking fucking drive through orders and you think it can function in an emergency? ‘Well people can make mistakes too’ isn’t going to bring back anyone who dies because of this.

Replying to @⁨joe@lemmy.world⁩

The difference being that operators aren’t working tired, distracted, and irritable for their entire shift while AI is functionally brain damaged the entire time.

If you’re going to refuse to acknowledge that just listening for the word ‘yes’ isn’t enough in an emergency situation then there’s no point in continuing this. Which, if it’s literally just a binary yes/no why the hell do we need AI and not ‘press 1 if you’re calling about x emergency’?

Replying to @⁨joe@lemmy.world⁩

Oh, so that is a concern when it comes to pointing out the ways in which AI is a solution looking for a problem, but not when it comes to pointing out this could kill people?

Not that you bothered to ask, but my solution is to add enough operators so that they aren’t working barely staffed at all times and getting overwhelmed the second more than a few calls come in. Working constantly at minimum staffing is the problem, this was solvable before 2022 without AI and it still isn’t necessary.

Replying to @⁨Catoblepas@lemmy.blahaj.zone⁩

I thought the extra question marks would have made it clear I was being sarcastic. No sarcasm this time: I’m sorry I wasn’t clear enough. That’s on me. Sorry.

My ambiguous sarcasm aside, I was pointing out that your solution also had the same problem you were trying to solve, because that problem is always there, no matter what.

Not that you bothered to ask, but my solution is to add enough operators so that they aren’t working barely staffed at all times and getting overwhelmed the second more than a few calls come in.

And if we lived in a world where money wasn’t very frequently the limiting factor, your solution might have merit. Unfortunately, capitalism is still something we have to deal with.