lastlybutfirstly

@lastlybutfirstly@lemmy.world · Joined ⁨Jan⁩ ⁨2026⁩

Replying to @⁨thingsiplay@lemmy.ml⁩

LLMs have conceptional problems, regardless who uses it. It is the technology that is the problem first

I disagree with this.

And we don’t have to throw it away, we have to comply. It needs to change.

I agree with this.

The problem with everyone’s panic over AI is that they can’t think straight. It’s like if I say that hammers are fantastic but everyone says that they are horrible because they have conceptual problems, murderous users are hitting people in the head with them, the companies are stealing wood and cutting down the rain forest to make them, etc.; meanwhile a YouTuber is caught using one and he’s apologizing and saying he has a problem and his wife and family are chewing him out for using a hammer. It’s sheer madness.

There’s nothing wrong with using a hammer. If the companies are using enslaved ewoks provided by Lord Vader to make them, that has nothing to do with the technology itself.

Replying to @⁨thingsiplay@lemmy.ml⁩

This is misleading and dishonest.

This is weirdly accusatory. I’m not sitting here in a black cape and stovepipe top hat, twirling my mustache.

Its not just looking up a single free information. Ai does more than that. Ai will not only scrape and copy the entire article, it will also scrape and copy the entirety of Wikipedia. There are licenses attacked to the Wikipedia article we have to follow to, if we scrape and use it for other purposes. It will also scrape the entire web. That is not the same as just looking up an Avalanche in Pakistan killed ten climbers.

If this is the way we’re going to look at it then I guess we have to throw this technology out the window. It seems like a bad idea to do that though.

Replying to @⁨thingsiplay@lemmy.ml⁩

But first, my personal problem with Ai doesn’t matter to this disussion, as I was talking about what people could have an issue with, not about my personal problems.

Okay. Then the problem that people, not you particularly, have with AI isn’t with the technology itself nor its use, but the methods by which the companies “grow and harvest it”, so to speak.

Which I don’t even think is true. People have just lost their minds over this. If a company unethically steals data and publishes a book with that data, we don’t say that there are legitimate concerns using books.

Replying to @⁨tekdeb@lemmy.zip⁩

I disagree with the moral panic about AI stealing things. They’re not Xerox machines. It does exactly what humans do except faster. Before AI, this YouTuber was reading a bunch of stuff, “stealing” things from it, and putting it back together in a different way, just like AI, except he actually understands what he’s reading.

I am concerned though about the resources it uses. But I don’t see that as an ethical issue. That’s more of a logistical issue. If they can make AI that doesn’t drink up Lake Michigan and doesn’t make the electrical grid scream, then more power to it.

My biggest concern whether people are for it or against it is that they don’t think it’s Skynet, or Data from Star Trek. It’s just a big dumb machine, a gigantic MENACE matchbox computer.