Replying to a post on discuss.tchncs.de
I’ll never buy a vehicle that requires cloud connectivity for anything. Not a problem!
Replying to a post on discuss.tchncs.de
I’ll never buy a vehicle that requires cloud connectivity for anything. Not a problem!
Replying to @PattyMcB@lemmy.world
Well, most cars don’t REQUIRE it, but most cars lose features if it doesn’t have network connectivity.
Good luck finding a car made after 2020 that doesn’t have at least one or two features that require the Internet to function.
Replying to @LastYearsIrritant@sopuli.xyz
I’ve never seen a car like this. Mine was made in 2021 though so I must have caught the last ship car out lol. What kind of things do cars even use the internet for? I’m struggling to imagine it
Replying to @Zarobi@aussie.zone
Remote start, lock/unlock doors, HVAC, windows, and alarm for basics.
Replying to @sorghum@sh.itjust.works
All things that have worked just fine on cars for like at least a decade before the internet was ever invented. You are describing the exact functions of a key fob. They can even open the truck without the Internet!
Replying to @khepri@lemmy.world
They make it go through an app and a cloud service on purpose these days so they have an excuse to upsell you on a subscription.
Replying to @grue@lemmy.world
Not all brands sell these features as a subscription.
I chased this up with Ford over my car. They said we get them for free for the life of the vehicle, and as long as the 4g it needs to work exists. That’s got atleast 10 to 20 years left in it.
Replying to @50MYT@lemmy.world
Some don’t sell them as a feature immediately. I think Toyota has an 3-10 year ‘free trial’ for some of their services. So one day your decade old car will just behave differently unless you start paying for the subscription.
Crap like this makes me want nothing to do with service connected vehicles at all. I don’t want to have to dig into all the software policies and durations for every brand I might be interested in a model of. You absolutely can’t trust what a salesman says at the dealer. I’ve shown them in writing that what they just told me was a flat out lie on multiple occasions.
The vehicles in my garage are currently 10-57 years old. People replace vehicles far too frequently.
Replying to @grue@lemmy.world
Why would you buy anything that requires and app, let alone a car? I haven’t bought a new car in a while, but if it requires and app, I’m not buying it. I bought a pergola, and originally they said I could use an app to turn the lights on. But I made them install a switch instead. Maybe consider unlinking your life for important/expensive purchases?
Replying to @PowerCrazy@lemmy.ml
Because if literally every new car on the market is doing it, you don’t have much of a choice.
(Okay, sure, you could resolve to drive old cars forever – and that’s what I do – but let’s not pretend that’s possible for everyone. Even if people were willing and able to accept the maintenance/reliability/safety tradeoffs, which many are not, there simply aren’t enough old cars for everybody to drive one.)
Replying to @grue@lemmy.world
There are a lot of 2026 cars that don’t require a phone app. They may have other shitty internet connectivity features, but they dont’ require an app.