ballotpedia.org/Adam_Heimerman

“safety” camera…

Americans and their safety guns, safety cameras. You can’t just call Bankruptcy Michael

I didn’t say it. I declared it.

They are for safety, just not for the general public.

safety for the politicians/oligarchs.

Finally. Gun violence I can support!

Welp, let’s get him elected and some of that immunity with it. Him running against flock and showing he is willing to do what it takes should give him good chances no?

Was going to say the same thing. I read his ballotopedia responses and he seems better than a Republican. But that’s a pretty low bar.

True. The Republican incumbent that he’s running against, Tim Burchett, promised to legislate against Flock cameras. While that’s nice, I no longer trust the promises of any Republican.

As far as I’m concerned, we need to replace all Republican politicians. If their opponent is a Democrat, we need to be a little careful not to elect a wolf in sheep’s clothing. But if they’re independents like the guy we’re talking about, I think just about anybody would do. Like an animal or an inanimate object would even be infinitely preferable to a Republican.

You need to vote for people who can win

Better start canvassing then, atleast this dude is already in the media!

I’m Canadian and happy with my provincial, municipal, and federal governments!

I remember a candidate talking about shooting a person in public and still winning, and he did. Call this a hot take, but I’d rather my politicians brag about shooting cheap surveillance tech than a living being

He probably got a boost in the polls for this in Tennessee.

He should get a medal instead.

Yeehaw

nuh uh I was playing mecha chameleon with him when that happened

From their Q&A:

Trickle down economics has failed to produce results. Subsidizing projects for corporations to reap the benefits while working class Americans struggle is fiscally irresponsible. Redirecting subsidies from multi-billion dollar corporations to public education and health programs.

Based.

Can’t be him, he was plowing my behind at that exact time.

Jeff Sovern and this guy are the best.

I dont think id support his political ambitions ̶D̶o̶ due to his lack of education and work experience but we do share the same opinions on mass surveillance.

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*due

Saying “do to his lack of education” is really fucking funny though.

Fair ;⁠-⁠)

Can we make him president?

He’s got my vote

This will get him more votes not fewer

Yeah, might have found a way to swing republican voters to his side.

Tennessee Congressional Candidate Arrested for Shooting Flock Surveillance State Cameras

Couldn’t be him. He was at my birthday party all of those days.

True. I was there and also saw him each of those days.

If you see someone damage fascist surveillance, no you didn’t.

What damage?

Did you guys know that when you vote for state primaries you have to choose which political party to get the choices for and you don’t see any other choices?

So this guy being independent, you would only ever get to vote for him if you picked the independent ballot and then you couldn’t vote for any of the democrats who are the only real chances to actually win against republicans and unseat them.

Whole thing’s fucking rigged man.

I mean that’s kind of how it works. A primary is simply a primary between that particular party’s candidates. So you’re not going to be choosing this guy for Democrat ballot if you’re an independent. I’m an independent and I’m not voting in the Democrat or Republican primaries. However in the general election I can then choose whatever candidate I want to select. I’ve never heard of an independent primary but then again most Independence are not listed as a specific political party. Because independent is not a political party it is a non-affiliation.

I mean that’s kind of how it works

And since you didn’t immediately follow that with “and that’s why the entire worthless system needs to be dismantled with prejudice” I stopped reading.

That being “how it works” is a part of the problem.

What an idiotic statement. Yeah the system sucks it needs to be fixed it’s fucking broken. We need more than two actual parties in this system. However it’s the system we have and it’s the system we have to work in so immediately stopping reading is the stupidest fucking thing you can do. Get registered fucking vote quit bitching and whining unless you’re part of the system and trying to change it.

“Quit complaining about how rigged the voting system is and just vote! Its the only system we have, can’t change it so stop complaining”

Is that right?

How can we change it if not telling everyone we know what a steaming pile of shit it all is and that it is clearly rigged and needs change? The voting part is the part not working because of how it is set up to be rigged.

Ranked choice is the answer. Not whatever farce this is that they are doing.

That’s right. Complain and do nothing. Voting never works. Your correct. I apologize.

Nope not what I said. The current way they are doing the voting is a steaming pile of shit that needs changed.

Ranked choice is pretty much the only answer. So I’m going to advocate for that strongly and make sure I point out how fucked and broken this current system is to anyone who will listen because that is how you change it. Not by saying “shut up and vote the way it is right now” like you said.

Also, I DID vote yesterday. But I’m certainly not going to be quiet about how unfair and rigged the process is. No one I voted for won, by the way. I still feel good for doing it anyway though it is all I can do other than complain loud enough that maybe it changes something.

The system can’t be fixed, it’s working exactly as intended. All of what you’ve said in multiple comments now seems to be repeating platitudes created to obfuscate that fact. I’ve been “part of the system”. I spent a decade as first a volunteer then a paid campaign staffer, I know whereof I speak when I say that voting will never change anything that matters, because the choices you get to vote for are filtered for loyalty to the ruling class before you ever get to hear their names.

The system must be completely torn down, and the people who the current system serves will absolutely unleash all the violence the Empire can muster to prevent that. Any milquetoast “solution” that depends on voting for the candidates put forward by either of the parties that serve that ruling class is not a solution, it’s a trap to get you to waste your time and energy while ensuring you keep enough faith in the system to prevent you from revolting or doing anything that might actually affect the status quo.

Oh no the system can’t be fixed everything’s going to waste! oh no what are we going to do! fucking complain some more Jesus Christ you little bitch

Very persuasive. You’ve convinced me. Doing more of what got into this point over the last 40 years will definitely fix it. Just vote Blue No Matter Who! Surely one of these times Lucy won’t snatch the football away, right?

Far better than voting any fucking Republican in at this point in time. And way fucking better than not voting at all and being apathetic and complaining about the system being broken. While I may not like floating Democratic only typically it’s the only choice to try to fight against the system. You do a lot of people do which is join the Republican party vote in their primary is just try to sabotage them. Or you could run for your own party and try to start an actual party that may make a difference. But we’ve seen how most of the independence work in most of the states. Hell Utah was the first place the pirate party tried to go into and we actively signed all of the paperwork to try to get it up and running. However in the end what they did was they move the goal post. As I’m sure you already stated in our well aware of them changing to try to keep power at any point. However that doesn’t mean that we give up and that doesn’t mean that we stop that means that we just keep fighting as much as possible and bringing the doctor see as much as possible to an end. Look at all the votes and all the races that have been won lately by actual progressives and my actual people that are in positions to make changes happen. Look at New York look at Michigan look at Bernie for so long in vermont. Change can happen but it’s going to take the convincing a whole hell of a lot of people to make it happen.

Change can happen but it’s going to take the convincing a whole hell of a lot of people to make it happen.

Change can happen, but the people who have all the wealth and power will absolutely not ever allow you to vote it away. Change will require sacrifice, and nobody who believes that they can vote their way out of the mess their grandparents voted them into will be willing to do what’s necessary.

I say again: I have been a party insider. I can tell you authoritatively that the DNC exists to suppress revolt by giving people like you faith in the system, and by capturing and neutering any social movement that might build enough momentum to get people to be willing to resist in any meaningful ways. You have no reason to believe that, of course, but it’s true nevertheless. So I encourage you: be the change you think you can make in the world. Start volunteer for complains. Bust your ass for a decade trying to move the party left. It’s the thing that finally made me see how worthless the Democrats actually are, so.i now encourage everyone making the arguments you’re making to try it themselves. It’ll be the only way you’ll ever learn the truth in a way you’ll believe.

Dude I can tell you right now I don’t give a fuck about the DNC I will vote whoever the fuck is available to vote for. I vote for more Independence than just about anybody. However most the time you get a choice between the Nazi party and the democrats. And yeah the Democrats may be bad but they’re still way fucking better than the fucking nazis. So yeah I’m going to fucking vote and yeah I’m going to fucking do everything I can to change the system. And that’s going to take convincing everybody else to fucking do it too. Are trying to say that no it will never happen it’s already fucking happening.

Lol, have fun with that. I’m sure your impassioned pleas will overcome the fucking nothing that your party (or their approved independents) will continue to do in terms of moving the needle on voter apathy.

Just go ahead and co-sign on genocide and the bipartisan immigration crackdowns and the “most lethal military on Earth” bullshit, it might cost you your soul, but at least other idiots with Liberal Brainsworms won’t look down on you for valuing human decency above vooooting.

All right and you keep on with your Russian propaganda I appreciate everything you’re doing to try to undermine whatever form of democratic Republic we may have.

Lol, once again, any deviation from the billionaire-aporoved ShitLib narrative gets labelled “Russian Propaganda”, which saves all the obedient little cable news viewers the trouble of actually thinking for themselves.

Oh shit I just realized you’re one of those .ml idiots. So I was fucking right about the Russian propaganda have fun getting blocked bitch.

Fyi, if your state (like Tennessee) has open primaries, you could choose to vote in one to support their worst candidate. Both major parties ask their voters do this sometimes to improve their odds in the general election.

That’s interesting I didn’t even know that any states actually had open primaries like this. I’ve only got experience voting in two different states and neither one of them have open primaries.

Well, yeah, that’s kind of obvious. In primaries elections you are deciding which candidate in a given party is going to be their candidate in the general election. It would make no sense for them to have independent candidates on their primary ballot. Since independent candidates, by definition, will not be a party’s candidate.

A party of one?

Yeah but this pretty much reinforces a two party system with virtually no hope of it ever changing.

What if I wanted to vote for a Democratic treasurer or whatever but wanted an independent state legislature that can’t happen unless I ONLY vote for ALL the independent options.

That’s a horrible, rigged system that needs thrown away and changed.

Why not an R or a D or an I next to all the runners names? Why am I locked in on one party or NOTHING? It’s crazy man

Because primary elections are about party candidates that will be supported by the particular party in the general election. If you want an independent state legislature, that needs to happen in the general election where you are choosing from all the candidates.

Yes, but what if I would like to have a say in more than one party’s candidate?

Its all or nothing. All democratic, or nothing. All independent or third party whatever they say on the ballot, or nothing. All republican, or nothing.

Sure I get you can’t pick like a democratic AND republican candidate for the same position but what if I really like the independent treasurer running but also recognize the importance of unseating the republicans in current power and want democratic nominees for everything else?

Well, I’d have to go with democratic because I know that’s the only snowball chance in hell to get rid of the republicans and I’m screwed out of the opportunity to vote for the independent treasurer running because now I can choose only the democratic ones running.

It is not a good or fair system and it is the reason we will forever have a two party system. Its junk. Rigged, to a certain degree.

Ranked choice voting or something similar is the way it should be done.

but what if I really like the independent treasurer running but also recognize the importance of unseating the republicans in current power and want democratic nominees for everything else?

Well, I’d suggest voting in the democratic primary and selecting a bad candidate for the treasurer and the good candidates for the other offices. If you’re lucky, others will vote the same way in the primary and the bad treasurer candidate you voted for will appear on the general election ballot along with the good democratic candidates for all the other offices.

This means that your preferred independent candidate would have a better chance of winning the office when the general election rolls around as will your preferred candidates for the other offices.

“Well I’d suggest voting in the democratic primary and selecting a bad candidate for the treasurer and the good candidates for the other offices”

You don’t understand how this is ridiculous and not at all the way it should be? Come on now…

We need ranked choice anything else is complete corruption.

Yeah… if the strategy ends up giving people you don’t want in office extra votes, that just seems completely backwards. It just increases the chances that the worst candidate gets elected, which to me sounds worse than just having the wrong party win.

This is why STAR voting is better

I vote for the sun

this is only true for the states without open primaries

Did you know that varies state by state?

My state has a jungle primary, you see all candidates irrespective of their or your party affiliation, and you vote for the ONE candidate you want to see on the ballot.

We also have ranked choice voting, which they are trying reallllly hard to take away.

I did not know this I really wish it was that way where I live.

Ranked choice is the answer

So what you’re saying is he’s a first amendment supporter with good aim who isn’t afraid to take direct action against federal surveillance overreach, right? I think you could sell this to the Republicans as a candidate just as easily as to the Democrats.

I think you mean 2nd Amendment, 1st is free speech. The 2nd is right to bear arms. But you’re otherwise 100% correct. If I were in the district/state he would have my vote. If we can put a pedophile in the White House, we can surely put this guy in Congress.

More like 4th the “come back with a fucking warrant” amendment

If money is a form of speech, so are bullets.

Bullets cost money, so bullets are just a way of projecting speech. Finally, a way for the average person to “talk” to a politician where they’ll actually listen.

Does this qualify me to be a Supreme Court judge?

I want this on a shirt.

This is hard at fuck. This makes me hard as fuck.

First is more! Speech, press, religion, assembly and redress of grievances. But no one on the right believes Trump is a pedophile btw.

1st, 2nd, 4th… Maybe 5th 6th, prob 8th right now …

Honestly that guy has my vote

A pair of wire cutters work just as well. And they’re a lot quieter.

Good guy Adam.

That would make me vote for him.

He’d get my vote. ( If I were so unfortunate to have tolive in Tennessee)

A beautiful state ruined by rednecks and religion.

There are lots of decent people in Tennessee too. I really want to visit, it’s so beautiful there, especially the mountains.

It don’t matter if the accusations are true or not because we at close enough to the election too.

Still eligible to hold office.

I’d vote for him.

people have voted for far worse.

Felony “charges”. They can nullified just as easily as bad charges can be convictions if you have the correct jury.

Who cares? electing felons is in fashion this decade.

Safety for who? The capitalist…

This is a real politician who i want in office. Someone who talks the talk and walks the walk?

Using what? Shotgun, paintball gun, pellet gun: I’ll donate to this campaign/defense fund. Handgun, canon, or rifle: go fuck yourself.

Lol, what?

“I support it if he used a shotgun but by gawd if he used a handgun he can burn in hell”

This makes no god damn sense man.

Edit: I was wrong about this. The issue is that handguns and rifles will keep traveling and potentially kill someone. A shotgun with birdshot would not do that.

Well, shotguns generally are extremely range limited, and birdshot is pretty mild after a couple dozen feet. You’re not gonna hurt someone accidentally, even if you completely miss the thing.

Handguns and rifles have an extremely high likelihood of hitting something or someone behind whatever you’re shooting at and travel great distance. Miss the camera, and you end up doming some poor bastard just walking down the street a mile away, or hitting some kid chilling in their room.

That’s fair acrually but I would hope he would walk up to it and shoot it and not try to hit it with a scope from 100 yards away.

There is truth in what you say though.

I’ve seen people completely miss a target from 5 feet out lol. And even then, the cameras are mostly plastic. A higher-powered rifle or handgun round would just go right through and keep going like nothing.

If by “extremely high likelihood” you mean “a remote but non zero chance” then I agree. It’s obviously too high a chance to take when it could result in someone’s death, but there’s just to much empty space between people to make it likely he would hit someone.

Well if you’re aiming up toward a camera on a pole, and miss, there’s a 100% chance it hits something else behind it. That being a person is low, but that’s not the only irresponsible thing to hit with a bullet.

Also, there are 30-40 deaths every year from inadvertent falling bullets from shooting up into the air.

I’m not defending shooting into the air, I’m just disputing the “extremely high likelihood” that you will hit a person.

I mean, if you just gloss over half of what I said sure.

You’re not disputing anything because that’s not what I said.

I said you have an extremely high likelihood of hitting “something or someone” behind it.

Which is absolutely true.

Basic gun safety states to know your target and what lies beyond it. Even a simple .45 has the potential to go through a camera, wall, and into a person, meaning that a perfect shot still has a non-zero chance of your bullet taking out a person or ruining someone’s day.

Using one of the first gun types displays foresight and consideration that I’d desire in a politician. The second type indicates a reckless figure who is uninformed about the tools and power that they wield, and doesn’t embody the values of a politician I’d trust.

It’s not enough to take action and be a badass; it’s important to also show that you’ll at least try to keep your constituents safe.

That’s fair actually and does make sense.

Couldn’t have said it better myself.

I broke my foot a few years ago and can’t run anymore. I can’t play anymore but I’ve really been considering pulling my paintball gun out of the closet.

Let’s cheer you up by going to the paintball range and purchasing far more paintballs than we’ll be able to use in our allotted time. I’m sure you’ll dispose of the extras safely.

Also, going to the beaches here in San Diego and harassing the people harassing the seals and sea lions.

Of course, you’re joking and we’d never do anything like that. In fact, we were busy studying the white Jesus Bible when we saw those people’s backs spontaneously expel paint splats onto themselves.

No paywall or anti-adblocker bullshit

Just use bpc. Bypass paywall clean

I mean, based? Elect him

Those flock cameras are known to aggressively attack. Im absolutely certain this was in self defense.

It was coming right at me!

checks out, TN is a stand your ground state

Fuck dude. I’m moving there and voting for him

" we dint see anything" maybe he was shooting at the gun range.

a good problem to have.

If I was in US he has my vote

Hell yeah

He’s just a kid, who took a wrong turn, and is from a good family. He’s obviously going to turn his life around. In 10 years, my best guess is the guy’s likely to become a surgeon.