Replying to @⁨WhatAmLemmy@lemmy.world⁩

Love the Mr Robot reference (hopefully).

It’s no different than you subsidizing the costs through the carrier, the only difference is Apple will likely earn interest whereas carriers do this at basically 0%. Or Apple is going for vendor lock in. Right now you can “switch phone companies” and they advertise paying off balances up to a certain amount to entice the switch. Apple may not allow that.

Replying to an earlier post

Now, a $1,999 MacBook Pro can have a monthly payment of $38.99 over 36 months.

$38.99 * 36 = $1403.64. That doesn’t seem right.

Macrumors has a more detailed analysis (different device in their example):

If you return the iPhone 17 Pro and simply move on from the Apple Upgrade program, then your total cost to own the device would be $551.88 after 12 months, plus sales tax if applicable. While that is less than paying $1,099 upfront, the catch is that you are no longer in possession of the device after your lease ends and cannot resell it or trade it in.

Seems like it’s just designed to keep people buying new hardware regularly.

MacRumorsApple's New Upgrade Program: Is It Worth It?With the new Apple Upgrade program in the U.S., you can now lease an iPhone, but is it worth it? The answer is more complicated than a simple yes or no. Subscribe to the MacRumors YouTube channel for more videos. We'll use the iPhone 17 Pro with 256GB of storage on a one-year lease as an example. In the U.S., the device costs $1,099 upfront, but through Apple Upgrade you can lease it for $45.99/month for 12 months.

Replying to @⁨123@programming.dev⁩

If you buy a phone and sell it after a year, you have ‘nothing’

If you buy it outright you spend $1000 and resell it for $500 you have $500

You lease it for $500 you still have $500

But that has to be your original plan to get a new phone.

Sometimes, the lease deals work in your favor and you’ll end up with more than the resell value. Sometimes you can get a really good outright deal too.

Edit: and without a lease deal, outright usually wins.

Replying to @⁨Glitchvid@lemmy.world⁩

Yeah. They haven’t raised prices for several years.

The iPhone 12 was $799 in 2020. The iPhone 17 was $799 in 2025. Inflation alone should have made the 17 $999 but they kept the price the same for 5 years.

Same for the pro lines. 12 pro was $999 in 2020. The 17 pro started at $1099 but they dropped the lowest 128GB storage tier. Same price as the 256GB model for the 12 pro. Inflation would put that at $1399 for the 17 pro.

Between inflation and AI making memory cost your firstborn, they’re going to have to raise the prices.