This why we need the 2nd.

What a child-like takeaway from this lol

lol right, I still can defend myself, have free speech and you have this. Bang up job!

My favorite part is how this chud thinks they can “defend themselves” when cops come to their door with an arrest warrant 😂

What happens if the cops don’t show up? Memes aren’t gonna save you pal.

I’m not your pal, buddy

Considering the original scenario is cops coming to arrest you, I don’t think you’ll get very far in “defending yourself”. But good luck in not dying in the shoot out with the cops.

This site is full of “FUCK GOVERNMENT!” “FUCK THE POLICE” and its full of people that will lay down. No wonder your government is running rough shod over you…

If no one stands up you die on your knees.

No wonder your government is running rough shod(sic) over you…

Since you talk about the 2nd Amendment and Open Carry, I’m just going to assume that you’re American, as am I. I could be wrong but that would mean you’re just a shill.

If we’re both American that means the same government is running roughshod over both of us. The only difference is you have a bunch of guns that have never used against the “government” and probably will never get used against them. So please continue to espouse your violence while hiding behind a computer screen.

First Nations and an American. Granted my tribe is from mostly Ontario I have zero trust in either government.

And me talking smack behind a screen, yeah ok.

You’re weirdly obsessed with referencing being on your knees

As someone with a concealed carry license, you give us all a bad name. Sit down and shut up.

ok fud

At this point I have to assume you’re just a troll who’s trying to make actual gun owners look stupid to further the stereotype of all gun owners being second amendment trailer trash ass holes who don’t understand anything other than beer, guns and fucking. Because surely you can’t be that stupid. But, I’ve been proven wrong by other people’s stupidity before. Let’s just all be shocked someone with your intelligence level isn’t sitting in jail for a negligent discharge that killed someone.

Ah personal attacks. I said nothing insane like your post

I own an ATF stamped machine gun

I own an ATF stamped SBR

I own 7 ATF stamped suppressors. (sucks now that they are free)

I have almost every NRA certification.

I train weekly and regularly do IDPA events.

I have never had an ND/AD.

Be a man, I open carrier.

Lol

Wow, you really got me there?

You got yourself. Congratulations on your shopping hobby though, lol.

lol I can’t say more without this being an issue. I have guns you have only seen on call of duty.

Just so you can go from innocent to become cop killer?

Or defending your rights in the US as I feel everyone on the planet should have those same rights.

Wrong guy, a freedom of speech issue and they arrested the wrong guy in the wrong fucking country!

You want to lay down thats on you, I’ll die with my boots on.

And yet despite all your bluster, Canada has more freedom and rights than the USA.

worldpopulationreview.com/…/freedom-index-by-coun…

By every metric measured Canada is better.

Also, your talking about people laying down, while your country is actively going down the shitter. Your boots are already off.

Tell me about the “Emergency Act” that was enacted, first time ever used in Canada.

I know more about Canadian history then you want to play with. turdue runs basically mashall law and seizes bank accounts and youre more free than me? Are you serious?

Because truckers protested. That shit would never fly down here.

Not sure what’s worst, getting wrongfully arrested because cop can’t do their job right or getting wrongfully killed because cop think you have a gun.

Just because he’d still be innocent doesn’t make it smart idea!

1. Wrong country. We don’t do that up here. Overall, we find this results in fewer unnecessarily dead people.

2. Let’s say he’d had a gun, and used it against the police. He would just have gotten hit with an additional charge that could have been anything from resisting arrest to first-degree murder, depending on how good a shot he was. So he’d still be in prison even after being proven innocent of the original charge. Real smart.

Or maybe if you had the 2nd they wouldn’t be so quick to arrest the wrong guy ad actually did their fucking job and investigated… No no that to lofty of a concept in canada…

The 2nd protects the 1st and you don’t have free speech.

Yeah, no one is ever wrongfully arrested and convicted in the USA. You guys are famously standing up to tyranny, brave yankee.

We have the freedom of speech which as we all know States side went out with blackface trudeu in canada then used the emergency act (for the US thats literally Marshall Law) to quiet down protesters in Ottawa.

Only time ever used, for honking horns. Then seized their bank accounts. So much freedom.

Say what you will about us here but you guys really lost your spine.

Buddy, you live under a corrupt government that is robbing you blind. You have the opportunity to prove that your gun shopping hobby is not just consumer fetishism right now!

But you won’t, of course. You might as well be collecting dildos.

LOL you are in a country of ccp shills. Tell me how you lost one of the best cell phone manufactures to chinese spies. 30 million people and you can’t find housing because its all foreign owned…

I haven’t bought a gun in at least 7 years. Prolly cause I got all the ones I want (Others than a 686). But my dildo’s have value and use and you can’t have them up there.

Oh, we are all aware of what you use your dildos for. Certainly not “defending against tyranny.”

States side

Marshall Law

We’re dealing with a real stable genius here.

Or, you know, you’d end up dead on your doorstep for trying to invoke your 2nd amendment to the fucking cops. That’s a good way to end up getting a Darwin award.

Some say its “Better to die on my feet than die on my knees.”

The US is currently having some concentration camps and ICE literally kidnapping people on the street and no 2nd amendment nut is doing shit.

So shut the fuck up with your dumb rhetoric.

i believe the implication is that when injustice is commonly met with this response, those seeking to exert force upon others do their due diligence

versus the “only the state can do violence and we never make mistakes hurr hurr” that (ahem) they really want the global population to internalize

You can’t stop the state from committing violence with a handgun, for crying out loud. Or even with a million handguns. The state will always have better equipment than you, most of which doesn’t require anyone to get within handgun range if they don’t want to. Granted, big missiles make a tremendous mess and they’d rather not use them, but the possibility is always there.

Expecting citizen violence to overthrow a modern government that’s dead set on preventing it is, to put it politely, unrealistic. Unless you can convince the military to take your side or at least bow out, removing the government’s ability to exert force, but you aren’t going to accomplish that by directing violence at the military.

• not really the direction i was pointing out, but i’m always interested in the arms race between citizens and those that seek to rule. do you foresee heavier munitions being deployed (by any side)?

In which country?

I keep on remembering a line from an old anime: “An unjust peace is better than a just war.” It keeps on floating through my head because it’s true for most people most of the time. Things have to get really bad—really bad—or at least you have to persuade people that they are, before you start seeing organized, armed insurrection on a large scale.

So what does it take? Lots of people being killed, maimed, or raped, at random and without any recourse, usually. Stealing enough children might also do it. Or a faction deliberately whipping the less-intelligent part of the population into a frenzy. Or really poor quality of life over the course of decades that makes people think they have nothing to lose. And even then it takes time if everything was peaceful for a generation or more before that, because at first people will hunker down and claim they’re dealing with “isolated incidents”, and that it can’t happen to them.

On the government side, what most governments want is to keep the economy running, because these days GDP is the measure of national success. For that, they need live workers and functioning civilian production equipment. That makes tear gas, handcuffs, and rubber bullets their weapons of choice and first resort.

For the government to haul out the big guns, one of two things has to happen. The first possibility is that it thinks it’s losing control to a point where it no longer has enough jack-booted thugs to keep its interests protected, and starts killing people and destroying material assets to make sure that at least no one else can have them.

The other possibility is that the upper echelons go completely Nazi Germany/Khmer Rouge level batshit, and enact bizarre murderous policies founded in deranged idealism. At that point, they often cease caring how they kill. (This includes governments that define some group of the people living in their country as subhuman.)

Are we going to see heavier munitions deployed in Canada over civil insurrection in the near future? I doubt it (and if it does happen, it’ll be in Alberta, not over the judiciary mistake from the original post). Is it going to happen anywhere in the world in the next decade? Possibly, because there are countries out there where people really do have nothing to lose and no way out, and governments whose grasp on power is shaky.

How’s that working out for no-knock warrants in the USA?

i don’t know - have you read anything interesting lately?

You’re replying to a common rage baiter. Please ignore them in the future.

Found the incel

So you can kill and get killed instead of fight legally?

www.webmd.com/stroke/signs-of-stroke

Tag checks out once again

Nope. Go live in America if you like dumpster fires.

I’m going to guess you have a “Don’t thread on me” flag up, but also a “Thin blue line” flag at the same time?

the underscore that costs an innocent man 18 months of his life

More like the shit police work and complete lack of evidence. How the hell could that make it through the courts all the way to sentencing?

legal systems in the British tradition have this tendency…

In the UK, it’s because it’s the defence’s job to notice this kind of thing, but paying for a good lawyer is life-ruiningly expensive, and public defenders via legal aid are paid hourly, but have a cap on the number of hours that’s never enough to deal with anything properly, so are either rushing everything and miss things, or are massively overworked and earning well below minimum wage when their unpaid work is included.

I don’t know if the same problems extend to Canada, but it’s fairly likely, as the adversarial approach just inherently means the defence has to do loads of things that would be someone else’s job or not need doing at all under alternative systems, so you have to have a trained professional doing lots of work, and that’s inherently expensive, but taxpayers don’t like spending money on defending people who probably did crimes.

Apparently the defence missed it too, which is pretty damning for whoever was (supposed to be) defending him, I’d think.

Even if the user name was correct, after a full search turned up no evidence of wrongdoing or behaviors consistent with the allegation, it should have been insufficient for sentencing.

To those like me who are confused because Skyrim is single-player: it was a Kik username inspired by Skyrim

Thanks. Also isn’t kik notorious for illegal shit? Like csam?

I’ve never heard of it in any context other than illegal shit.

Outrageous this even happened to begin with.

it is this rife lazy shit right here from cops, prosecutors and anyone who should know better and are paid to know better is why im always correcting people on the spelling of my name even if it is one letter off.

notheonion?

The underscore was an SCP

‘found no evidence connecting him to the girl, the messages, or the images involved in the case.’

So the ONE piece of evidence was a username?? And he was convicted on that?

But the AI said it was 100% and I even asked it to make no mistakes!

No. The one piece of evidence was an incorrect username.

Yeah you really should be asking how the fuck you send someone to prison with zero fucking evidence of them committing a crime.

Surely bare minimum is that several people in the legal system need to be losing their jobs over it. If not facing criminal negligence charges of their own.