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floofloof@floofloof@lemmy.ca
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Cory Doctorow: The people who tell you ‘AI is changing everything’ are lying

www.thenerve.news/p/cory-doctorow-ai-business-incentive-to-lie-useless-chatbots-report-nikhil-suresh
Cory Doctorow: The people who tell you ‘AI is changing everything’ are lyingThe NerveCory Doctorow: The people who tell you ‘AI is changing everything’ are lyingIt has become impossible to tell managers mesmerised by artificial intelligence that the tools are not, in fact, helpful. So employees just play along with the fiction to keep their jobs, writes our tech columnist
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Krusty@Krusty@quokk.au
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I was talking about roof sheathing with the latest chat gpt.

It was confident the joists should go above the sheathing.

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sammy_miami@sammy_miami@piefed.world
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LLMs seem to be pretty bad at home improvement sort of questions in my experience. I suspect they don’t have a team of carpenters they use to RL the models, like they do for software engineers, etc

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tempest@tempest@lemmy.ca
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Software is easier because you can basically ‘inspect the house’ and the ‘home inspector’ via software.

Harder to do that with a house. Also a lot of different rules based on locality.

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Rooster326@Rooster326@programming.dev
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Reminder it doesn’t know anything.

It is just mimicking text it has been programmed for.

For it to be “good” at mimicking home improvement, it’s source needed to be full of home improvement talk. The best carpenters, plumbers, whatever aren’t on reddit, or wherever talking shop. They’re working, or making OSHA jokes at the bar.

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TheLegendaryAssholeOfJushinLiger@TheLegendaryAssholeOfJushinLiger@sh.itjust.works
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How do people work? Are there ones born knowing how to use a hacksaw?

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CandleTiger@CandleTiger@programming.dev
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Replying to @⁨TheLegendaryAssholeOfJushinLiger@sh.itjust.works⁩

Mostly tradies are learning by hands-on apprenticeship with a master. All that discussion is not on the internet.

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NoForwadSlashS@NoForwadSlashS@piefed.social
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How did anyone ever learn anything before chatgpt?

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TheLegendaryAssholeOfJushinLiger@TheLegendaryAssholeOfJushinLiger@sh.itjust.works
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Personally I would ask my aunt and she would be wrong.

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Rooster326@Rooster326@programming.dev
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The better question is how will anyone ever learn after ChatGPT

I can’t be the only one who will have a hard time for me to trust any professional who became qualified after 2023.

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Rooster326@Rooster326@programming.dev
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Replying to @⁨sammy_miami@piefed.world⁩

That is because carpenters and contractors talk shit at the job site, the bar, and the gas station instead of on reddit

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